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I have been meaning to write about this for a while now. I remember reading an article a while back that INTJ's are the least likely to give to charity. I looked and looked but can not find that anywhere now. So I will talk about what I do remember and explain why I agree with it. The article said that the reason we do not give, it's not that we are giving, is that we are so driven by our motto "Bottom line, does it work." We are not swayed by emotions. We have very little empathy/sympathy. We are focused inwards on our own problems. I will explain all these points as well as add in my own views on our cold detached nature and interest in violent natural phenomenon.

1. Does it work? Most of these charity things you see are meant to pull at the heart strings of people and of all the types even the NT's INTJ's don't have them. So when they show you pot bellied picks of kids in Africa we probably don't think, "Poor things I want to help." A common reaction I get out of those photos is "Hum, that sucks. Glad it's not me." If we bother to look at what's involved in most of these "charities"/scams we are instantly turned off because these are not solutions to world hunger or saving whales or any other thing like that. They are temporary patches that do not solve the greater issue and we are not interested in something that really does not help and does not solve the big picture problem. I for some reason was getting a magazine about give a goat to a poor family. Just the fact they were begging from me in my own mail box has them already on the wrong foot. But I looked into it. Can I chose what kind of goat? Can I talk to the kids and families I give to? Can we write letters to each other? Can I be sent photos showing me how they have improved their lives? The answer to all this was No. CLICK. NEXT! I could go into a big rant about why this scam does not work but that is not the focus of this article. But it is our thought process as we are argumentative my mind made a check list of flaws this system and it made me proud that I saw through it when most people don't.

2. We are no driven by emotions or people oriented. This is where we differ from the NF's that fall for these things because they are so cause oriented and want so much to help. This includes the introverts. Cause and people oriented. Feeling types in general are people oriented even if they are introverts. Something else that is annoying to us. I have mistaken introverts for extroverts because of this puzzling trait. Anyway showing us photos of starving kids, hurt animals etc does not elicit an emotional response in us. Well at least not the desired one of "Poor thing how can help?" They are looking for. If INTJ's have one emotion it's Anger and its variants. Usually grumpiness. The emotional response will likely be anger for being bothered and disturbed and trying to force an emotion out of us. "Here's an emotion for you." Insert mental image of chasing hippies with a flame thrower. There is one other emotion that we might have but we keep it inside and you would never notice it. Excitement. INTJ's are drawn to power and if you're showing us disaster relief we are way more interested in the disaster and the science behind how it came about than the human side of the story. People crying is not interesting too us and this is something the media loves to show. These are strangers. We do not care so long as it's not someone we know. And we don't have a huge social circle so we're probably 95% safe it's no one that matters to us. "Yes yes enough with all the crying people. Explain how this tsunami started? What was the force? How many cities were destroyed? What moron forgot to sound the alarm? More more more?"

3. We are focused inward. I sort of touched on this already on point 2. Again so long as it's not someone we cared about or worse US then we really don't care. We've got more important things to think about like solving math problems, figuring out how to build our next invention and so on. We are very detached. This is a strength as we do not give in emotionally to crying during a crisis and instead focus on solving the problem or surviving. One thing that bothers me when there is a disaster is that you mostly only see aftermath. It's exciting at first but quickly gets old. We want to see destruction as it happens not the result of flattened cities and cars. We want to see cars flying through the air and people that know how to stand in a safe place and not flinch with their cameras. Lastly going back to the whole "Does it work." Scenario. So does that mean we never give and are stingy? Hell no. IF the project has value and merit to us and will be something that will be seen to completion then we will be happy to give what we can. Let's say that they figured out the cure for cancer but the thing holding it back was funding and they asked for donations. Yes that is something we would donate to happily even if we had only pennies to give. Plus we'd get pride from having contributed to a small part of it. INTJ's do have big egos after all. It's good to have healthy pride. On a personal level, we prefer to work on the smaller personal level than on the big crowd level, we INTJ's are very giving to the few individuals that matter to us. The rest of the world be damned. But to our small circle of friends we treat like royalty when we can. We give gifts happily to those closest to us as they probably occupy plenty of our head time. Just that the rest of the world never gets to see this side of us. And we do not care. The world be damned.

So that is why INTJ's of all the types are the least giving. Oh and there is one exception to this that I personally dealt with on my trip. I was gassing up my car on the way home. This kid comes up to me and begs me for money that his mom was over there in a truck and they'd run out of gas and he was collecting money. Scam. Almost every gas station has one of these types working it doing such a thing. But without saying a word I eyed him and the situation. Big kid, way bigger than me. A bit scary looking. He's interrupted my thought process of filling up my car while I'm in a strange town I don't know anything about. So I gave him two bucks just to make him go away. I really don't care about him or his mom or if he spends it on beer and pisses it away. To me it was worth $2 to be left alone at that point. Sure enough he went and gave the same story to the next person. That's not charity it's a job and by the end of the day he's probably going to have a good amount of money for whatever. Funny enough when I was in Canada the same thing happened with a woman that came up to me and asked me in French for money. I gave her the death stare and said sternly "No." in a Spanish accent as I think it's pronounced the same and she understood to leave me the Hell alone. So there you have it.

On that note I want to talk about natural disasters now. I am fascinated by them and love watching disaster footage. It's so hard to find good raw disaster footage and again not just aftermath. I found an article the other day that the Volcano in Guatemala was erupting. It's called Volcan De Fuego. Well there wasn't much out there . The footage of lava coming out was only at night. Pretty at first but then the novelty wore off on me quickly. I can't watch a volcano making lava for more than 3 minutes. It got boring. But then I found THIS amateur video. I prefer raw amateur footage like this than official news footage for being un cut and showing things from a personal level. The commentary made this video for me. She was talking about how she got up this morning and Volcan De Fuego was very grumpy and angry. Look how mad he is. The one next to him is nice. And the big one here on the left is very friendly and never does anything. I know she's being positive but to me this tickled my dark humor. Yes look how grumpy the volcano is today before is crushes our village with a pyroclastic flow. Haha. I loved her panning too. Despite the shakey camera this shows very well how typical it is in Central America to have villages like this completely surrounded by deadly volcanoes. I've been to El Salvador several times and I'm always amazed how the capital is at the foot of several volcanoes. Beautiful imposing view in all directions, but it's just a way of life for these people I guess like hurricanes are for us. We have hurricane parties. Makes me think of Independence day
Will Smith: Is that an earth quake?
Girlfriend: Not even a four pointer. Go back to sleep.

And yesterday we had our own disaster here in Florida. Funny I was just talking about this in a previous post. A large sinkhole opened up not far from where I live in Land O Lakes FL and ate two houses and the street. I spent hours on youtube searching for the best videos but got rather annoyed after a while because everyone was just uploading the same thing over and over again. I'm thinking, in this age of cell phones SOMEONE, some neighbors had to have filmed more than the 4-5 videos floating around. Perhaps they'll pop up later but at least this time they were interesting. So here are some videos. This first one I found because I watch this guy. He posts great videos from his quadcopter of the Tampa Bay Area.

https://youtu.be/Ry8MuGQunz8

https://youtu.be/tI-3JozAxJQ
This next one is the one everyone and their grandmother has reuploaded. Would love to find the original in good quality. I do like it a lot because of the amazing sound of a house breaking. Also it's crazy to see how the ground water comes up and there is a current. I will talk about FL geology after these posts.

https://youtu.be/XN4qbEgrORM
I love this one because this is before the house in the other video collapsed. This is basically the start of the sinkhole. I would love to find more stuff like this as I know there are lots of people in this neighborhood that would have filmed each part of it.

https://youtu.be/Fqq9PPoHyGU
Lastly the neighbor's house starting to go in. I'm amazed at the power of this thing destroying a concrete house like nothing. Interesting to see a bed floating in the quicksand.

Florida Geology 101 now. Florida is a fairly new piece of land having risen out of the ocean during the Cenozoic. We're only around 40 million years old and that's why we sadly have no dinosaur fossils. Only age of mammals. Not as interesting unfortunately. So from bottom to top Florida is mostly Limestone, Clay and Sand because of our marine origins. Limestone is porous and weak against acid. Rain is naturally acidic so over time the rain percolates into the ground and erodes away the limestone forming caverns.



Our "solid" limestone layer is more like a sponge made of a network of caves and tunnels that run through the whole state and contains our aquifer. The aquifer is a system of underground rivers that flow to the ocean. Sometimes they break the surface as springs and provide fresh drinking water. There are many springs all over the state. After a great period of time rains can erode the lime stone and form a huge cave under the land that is filled with water from the aquifer. But during times of drought the water level drops and then with only air filling the cave the roof can not support the weight above. If there are buildings and cars over this they will fall in when the roof of the cave breaks.

Now look at this fictional cross section of our aquifer.



Notice that some of our big cities are literally floating on water. The entire state is a big sinkhole threat zone and that is why home owners insurance does not cover sink holes. For that you have to buy separate sinkhole specific insurance because all parts of the state are under threat. It just depends how much of a threat you are in.



Now have a look at this image. What happens if there is a lake over an empty cavern? Well we have such a case. Lake Jackson is the "magic" disappearing lake that has the plug pulled on it every few decades just like a bath tub. It's in north Florida in Tallahasee. Every 20-30 years the plug opens up and fish and alligators get swallowed up by the earth. I wish I could find the original video that showed that but it seems to be gone from youtube. For now here is one that is kind of interesting. I like seeing the lily pads on dry land.
https://youtu.be/FfMwEwfDr-E

The old video mentioned the original Indian name for the lake meant something like "Land of disappearing lake" so this has been going on for centuries.

Sinkholes usually happen in the dry season when the water dries up in the caves. But what about the one that just happened. This is our wet season. Well, as you saw the opposite happened. The sinkhole filled with water in those videos. Looks like a new spring came up between those houses. Eventually most sink holes become lakes. The infamous Winter Park sinkhole of 1981 did this. Probably the largest we've had today is now the lovely Lake Rose where people can go and feed ducks. Many lakes are former sinkholes.

Lastly sinkholes can also be caused by human activity like drilling a well or putting in pipes that cause the ground above to collapse.

So yes it's always interesting living here in this state.
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We INTJ's are system builders. Our archetype is known as Mastermind, Scientist or Strategist. But I once read one that was unusual but accurate. The Outside Contractor. We come in see what the problem is in a system and fix it. If the system is a failing business we do not care about social relationships and who's friends and who's enemies. The point is to fix the system and we cut out those that are holding the system back without care for feelings or personal attachments. That is why we are so effective because we are so objective and well ruthless. I was having a conversation with [livejournal.com profile] jokerforever and he showed me a picture someone had made of animals that represent each of the types. I was fairly impressed and I don't easily impress. But that wore off quickly and soon I could not stand the flaws. It's all I could see and they had to be fixed. The system had to be improved on. We do not focus on the positive because that already works it doesn't need our attention. We focus on the negative because that is where improvement is required and one of our mottos is "Bottom line: Does it work?" So this is the old flawed picture I was shown.
HERE

Some of the animals were wrong. Dead wrong on the Seal for INFP. Seals are happy social, optimistic creatures. So that would not stand. The second issue was this person was obviously an N and probably an NF because all the N's got positive descriptions while all the S types were dumped on. So that had to be fixed. Cue the objective NT to fix the mess on an idealistic NF. Lastly, this person is from tumblr. That had to be fixed. So now I present to you the improved and corrected animal Myers Briggs chart and descriptions.



So this person almost had it right but not quite.

Ok if you read my post about how it's difficult to surprise me with gits well it happened today. Ironic I was just talking to [livejournal.com profile] audes_lj about this. A little back story. I had ordered two giant microbes as gifts. I had also written to the company to ask them why they got rid of the Add to Wish List button but still have a Wish List. Isn't that dumb and you can't add stuff to your list anymore so why have it? He asked me what microbe I wanted to add. So I told him about geobacter and thought he would manually add it for me. Nope bu the wished me a happy birthday filled with geobacter. I got suspicious and wondered if I might be getting one as a just because since I've been a loyal customer for years and been ordering every year from them. Hummm? I wonder? Anyway been watching the tracking and today I get my order. YAY! Two bags? WTF? I then thought maybe they put each microbe in a separate bag OR they sent me a free geobacter. That would rock. So I tore into one of the bags all excited. There was an orange plush. Geobacter??? No this wasn't Geobacter. What's this? I didn't order this. From Audes? OH NO MY GIFT!!! Darn it. So thank you for the early gift and sorry I accidentally opened it. Oh man we were just talking about this. It's funny and annoying because I'm not one of those impatient kids or people that can't wait to find the gift and spoil it. I really do like to wait for the special day to open gifts. But I have this curse thrust upon me. I can't pretend I didn't see it or forget about it. So thank you for the Neurax Worm and Krill. A harmless creature and a cool dangerous fictional creature with mind control powers. I loved the Neurax campaign actually. I named mine Alaskan Bull Worm. BTW I'm currently playing the Simian Flu right now. I lost the first time around and will try again soon. Wanted to ask those of you that play Plague Inc. Does your game have a glitch? Mine has no music. I've been looking forward to this mission but it's a bit boring with no music. The music gives this game awesome atmosphere. I don't know if it's just me or if this version is messed up for everyone. Also I think I'm actually a big fan of the Apes movies. The new Planet of the Apes movies. I could never get into the originals despite them being classics. I can't wait for the new Apes movie to open on Friday. I want to go see it on opening day. So Wed and Thursday I will watch parts 1 and 2 to be caught up on what happened and have those fresh in my mind when I see the new one.

I didn't work on any art today but I wrote a whole story for the drawing of George. So please check that out when you have time. I'm very excited about it and love how it turned out. I want to draw more scenes from it.
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The title of this post is actually "The Tiger Can't Change Its Stripes" Revisited. After commenting on Shanglong's journal about Myers Briggs I wanted to bring up this old post I made a few years ago. The Tiger Can't Change Its Stripes. Myers Briggs is based on real psychology originally started by research done by Carl Jung. INTP btw. It is a true science and very accurate though all the tests currently out there are rather flawed. But the biggest flaw lies with the test taker. Most people that take these for the first time or are given one by a psychologist test wrong because they answer the questions as they think they should instead of answering honestly. They may not like something about themselves or admire a trait another type has and project it or answer as they wish they were. So they get wrong results. Shanglong brought up another flaw in that the person may not understand the question and answer wrong because of this as well as apathy. "This question is not important I'll put anything down." When I first took the text I was answering wrong and kept getting ISTJ as a result and occasionally INTP. I respect S types, grew up with them and said yes to some of the questions about liking rules, following orders or traditions, past experience, senses etc. And I would get S type as a result of this. But the more I read about the types the more I noticed it did not add up in real life. Also back then I did not understand what intuition was and that I used it way more than I realized. I actually don't respect rules and break them often or bend them so long as it's not out right breaking the law. I find exceptions to the rules then use those to get around problems much to others' annoyance. S types don't do that. If they think a rule is wrong they might voice that it is stupid but still heed it. I found myself doing these kinds of things way too often. So why was I answering these questions with a "Yes"? It was then I told myself to stop doing that and be honest on those questions and once I did I got my true result of INTJ. My N was the weakest and I think it still is which is why it is easy for me to think like an S type and relate to them. But by weak I mean my N is in the upper 70's to mid 80s which is still high and way past the limit.

Another factor people misunderstand about the test is that if you get 50% say I then you're borderline and you're also a E? No. There is no borderline. You're not both. You can't be both. You are one or the other. Think of it as a health bar for your points so it is just a percent of how strong it is. Some witty INTP came up with this formula to explain the annoying 1% result you sometimes get on these tests. So 1% I means you're really an extrovert 99% of the time? No.

(x + 100)/2.

X is the variable you get. So if you got 1 for introversion you'd have 1 + 100 = 101/2 = 50.5. So that means you're really 50.5% introverted and 49.5% extroverted or you're borderline. A 1% is actually a borderline case. This means that my numbers just got sent through the roof! But it does make so much more sense this way. I was plugging in numbers just for the fun of it. Which in itself if very N. An S would take their number from this formula and be done with it. Here I am wanting to see all possibilities. Of course 100 cancels itself out so my I and my T being at 100% are just that. The higher the number you get the more accurate to that number it is hence think of your percent as a health bar not a tug of war.

So the point of the old article is you can't change your type. You are born into it unless you get some kind of brain damage. It is neurologically charged. Of course you can act different for a limited amount of time but going against your type will drain you not charge you so you can not keep it up forever. Acting within your four letters charges you while acting outside of them drains you. An INTP on a job has to be an INTJ. You have to be there on time, you have to meet deadlines, you have to act and do your job. Yes he can do it. He has to but he's dead at the end of the day. Therefore in a traumatic situation you don't change. Your true colors come forth as you can not keep up the charade. You guys know last year I went through Hell and a bit into the start of this year. I have not changed. Not to say you won't have moments of weakness. Everyone does. This is normal but you don't change. I love Popeye's quote with his accent, "I ams what I ams." So the issue here lies with flawed tests, poorly worded questions but most of all flawed test takers.

I want to share the Two sites that are my faves for descriptions of the 16 types. I tell people if they get confused by the tests to forget the tests and read all 16 types and decide for themselves. Those that are still unsure are usually P's. But I don't see how after a good amount of introspection one can not know themselves to figure it out. Typical INTJ response, "Their problem not mine."

Type logic
Personality Portraits

I will eventually add my own descriptions to the list as they are short and to the point. One thing to watch out for on these sites is typing of historical and fictional characters. They get this so majorly wrong. And what's worse is the other sites just copy and paste without questioning these things. From studying Myers Briggs so much over the years I am very good at typing both fictional and real people once I have had a decent amount of time to observe them. In fact typing characters in shows and movies is one of my fave past times. But how these people get some things so wrong is beyond me. For example 7 of 9 from Star Trek Voyager is listed as an INTJ. I do not know why when she's completely an ESTJ. For one she's a Borg and borgs once converted are extroverts. In one episode she even said she does what her "collective" decides as well as mentioning that she does not like to be alone at the start. I could go into a full detail of why she's ESTJ but that is not the point of this post. Some other time. Same with Star Trek's DS9's Dr Julian Basir who is listed as an introvert. What moron wrote that? He's ENFJ. Very loud, talks all the time, loves everyone, thinks everyone should love him. Raging extrovert for sure. I see so many of these characters typed wrong. In fact I really should write the type logic guy about Ishmael from Moby Dick is ISTP not INFP. I've read the book three times and am a big fan. He chose the one passage from the book where Ishmael was out of character because yes he was worried that his friend was dying. Thinking types do have feelings but it takes a lot for us to show them. One of my fave parts of Moby Dick was when Ishmael found a rug in his motel and didn't know what it was for so he looked at it, touched, it smelled, put his ear on it and even bit it and licked it. And at the end he still didn't know what it was for and put it away. That was so funny to me. Yeah S type. I'd love to see that in a future movie adaption of him with a rug in his mouth. So be careful of that and be careful of the match making. Remember similar types get along best. Read my other post about my One Letter Difference Rule.


Finally about the subject of this post. It's just my N messing with the LJ system. I found in the setting were to remove myself from being featured on the front page. I'm curious if this post will make it on and still wonder why my stuff is only just now getting featured when I've been here for 12 years and had that setting unknowingly turned out. AudeS is right. My journal is way more interesting than anything on the front page as it's mostly boring garbage from shallow people. Once I've had my fun I'm turning on that feature because I don't give a dang. Happy to be popular and now I put an end to it.

EDIT: They took the bait. I don't know if the feature thing is done by a robot or some moderator actually reads public posts and posts them on the front page. As of now it says I'm on there. I don't care about where. But now I have turned off that setting so I should soon be pulled off the front page too. HAHA yes it is gone now. Successful experiment. And an example of what INTJ's do to test the limits of things.
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